{"id":577,"date":"2020-04-24T15:01:30","date_gmt":"2020-04-24T19:01:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sites.nd.edu\/blackandgreenatlantic\/?p=577"},"modified":"2020-04-24T15:05:33","modified_gmt":"2020-04-24T19:05:33","slug":"blurred-lines-in-the-commitment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sites.nd.edu\/blackandgreenatlantic\/2020\/04\/24\/blurred-lines-in-the-commitment\/","title":{"rendered":"Blurred Lines in &#8220;The Commitments&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">While Roddy Doyle\u2019s The Commitments show us the different ways Irish and Irish-Americans understand the black experience, I begin to think about the influence of black culture on other cultures. For example, through Jimmy and Joey, they are without a doubt influenced by soul music, and are moved by it. And even though a genre of music may have been created by a specific group of people, it does not belong to any one person\/ entity. With that being said, in class discussion there were a lot of questions surrounding Joey and his legitimacy within the group. While we have come to the conclusion that his role was more deceptive than reliable, I would argue against that position. I don\u2019t argue that his tendencies and actions were problematic, but I am not quick to label him as a fraud.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">We come to understand that there is a difference in status between Joey and other members of the group. Therefore, their understanding of the music, and of black culture will naturally be different from each other. Joey seemingly is in a better financial situation than Jimmy and the others, which not only alters his experience of black culture, but of Irish culture. In addition, aside from the knowledge of the music, Joey has been in direct contact with, and has experience first hand the impact of soul music, which should mean that he is legit. Arguably, just because he surrounded himself with \u201cthose people\u201d doesn\u2019t mean he knows anything about them or their experience (but the same could be said for the band). Nevertheless, he is impacted by the music in some way. Even if his facade is in fact pretend behavior, it was most likely influenced by American culture. I say this because, although we have discussed the disconnect between Irish and Irish-Americans, if in this instance Joey represents the Irish-American perspective, he doesn\u2019t seem to be in conflict with the other members. By conflict I am referring to a misunderstanding of each other&#8217;s Irish background.\u00a0 Because it doesn&#8217;t seem that their issues are about their Irishness, rather their understanding of black culture.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Along those lines, we see through <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Commitments <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">that the connection was being made from class and struggle. Jimmy and the other members were not black but yet connected with the music and with the culture. They were trying to associate with it, while maintaining their Irishness within the music. Yes, Joey formed a false-connection with the culture, but his lack of knowledge does not determine whether or not he actually liked the music. He doesn\u2019t have to be able to recite all soul artists, or know everything about black culture (even though he pretends to). Even if he just liked one specific song, it is clear that he was impacted enough to want to put on a \u201ccharade\u201d.\u00a0 Whether it was joy, hate, or envy, the music makes you feel a certain way, and in that way you are impacted by it.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">In addition, I would argue that many cultures misunderstand the black experience, including blacks. For example, was InDahomey a misunderstanding of black identity or a redefining of black identity? The backlash that they received from the black community would suggest that they were wrongfully altering the black experience. Nevertheless, how is what Joey doing different? Maybe because he\u2019s Irish and the two experiences are <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">not <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">the same. This may be true, but when you involve the arts (theater and music), the lines definitely get blurred.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>While Roddy Doyle\u2019s The Commitments show us the different ways Irish and Irish-Americans understand the black experience, I begin to think about the influence of black culture on other cultures. For example, through Jimmy and Joey, they are without a doubt influenced by soul music, and are moved by it. And even though a genre &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/sites.nd.edu\/blackandgreenatlantic\/2020\/04\/24\/blurred-lines-in-the-commitment\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Blurred Lines in &#8220;The Commitments&#8221;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3684,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-577","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/sites.nd.edu\/blackandgreenatlantic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/577","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/sites.nd.edu\/blackandgreenatlantic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/sites.nd.edu\/blackandgreenatlantic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sites.nd.edu\/blackandgreenatlantic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3684"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sites.nd.edu\/blackandgreenatlantic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=577"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/sites.nd.edu\/blackandgreenatlantic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/577\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":580,"href":"https:\/\/sites.nd.edu\/blackandgreenatlantic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/577\/revisions\/580"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/sites.nd.edu\/blackandgreenatlantic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=577"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sites.nd.edu\/blackandgreenatlantic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=577"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sites.nd.edu\/blackandgreenatlantic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=577"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}