{"id":2250,"date":"2013-02-13T10:13:30","date_gmt":"2013-02-13T15:13:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.nd.edu\/thecc\/?p=2250"},"modified":"2013-02-13T10:15:39","modified_gmt":"2013-02-13T15:15:39","slug":"durkheim-contd","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sites.nd.edu\/thecc\/2013\/02\/13\/durkheim-contd\/","title":{"rendered":"Durkheim (cont&#8217;d)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\" href=\"http:\/\/sites.nd.edu\/thecc\/files\/2013\/02\/durkheim1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft  wp-image-2266\" title=\"durkheim\" src=\"http:\/\/sites.nd.edu\/thecc\/files\/2013\/02\/durkheim1-e1360767841929.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"127\" height=\"173\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\">My last blog on Durkheim may have left some a little unclear as to the distinction Durkheim makes between his epistemology and his sociology of knowledge.\u00a0 My hope is that the following might help clear up this distinction and, if it does not, that readers will be drawn to read Anne Warfield Rawls\u2019 article on this topic (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.jstor.org\/stable\/2782631\">\u201cDurkheim\u2019s Epistemology: The Neglected Argument\u201d<\/a> 1996, AJS, 102[2]).\u00a0 Nevertheless, Rawls believes that this distinction is a major point of confusion about Durkheim\u2019s work.\u00a0 As the abstract to her article states:\u00a0<!--more--><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\">Durkheim\u2019s epistemology, the argument for the social origins of the categories of the understanding, is his most important and his most neglected argument.\u00a0 This argument has been confused with his sociology of knowledge, and Durkheim\u2019s overall position misunderstood as a consequence.\u00a0 The current popularity of a \u201ccultural\u201d or \u201cideological\u201d interpretation of Durkheim is as much a misunderstanding of his position as the \u201cfunctional\u201d interpretation from which the current interpretations seek to rescue him.\u00a0 Durkheim articulated a rather sophisticated epistemology in the classical sense, a point which has been entirely missed.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\">Rawls goes on to point out:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\">Durkheim\u2019s epistemology and his sociology of knowledge are not the same.\u00a0 The task of an epistemology is to explain the possibility of human knowledge and to ascertain what relation human experience and ideas bear to the objects of experience (in Durkhiem\u2019s case socially enacted objects, i.e., practices).\u00a0 An epistemology asks where our ideas came from and what validity they have.\u00a0 Durkheim\u2019 sociology of knowledge on the other hand, appears in the conclusion to\u00a0<\/span><em style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\">The Elementary Forms<\/em><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\">, and at the end of the lectures on pragmatism, consists roughly of the argument that language and culture consist of cosmologies of ideas, which arise as collective explanations for social forces (which are then transposed to natural forces), and that these are passed on down through generations. . . .\u00a0\u00a0 However, Durkheim\u2019s sociology of knowledge does not address the epistemological question of how such ideas or cosmologies are related to an underlying reality.\u00a0 In fact, it makes it clear that he does not think the collective representation bear any necessary relation to an underlying reality.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\">Durkheim\u2019s epistemology, on the other hand, best represented by the central chapters of\u00a0<\/span><em style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\">The Elementary Forms<\/em><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\">, deals explicitly with the question of where the basic ideas, which Durkheim refers to as categories of the understanding, originally come from.\u00a0 They do bear a necessary relationship to an underlying social reality and must come from direct participation of empirical (social) reality.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\">There is no contradiction between these two positions.\u00a0 They deal with different questions.\u00a0 The sociology of knowledge examines the origins of broad cultural narratives and asks what social forces they have developed in response to and what happens to these ideas once we have them.\u00a0 The epistemology asks how we develop a framework of six basic ideas in common in the first place such that any ideas could be shared to a degree sufficient to allow for the development of a cosmology.\u00a0 The epistemology lays out the framework for thought: the sociology of knowledge the content.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\">Rawls is trying to make clear that a sociology of knowledge deals with concepts and ideas and that epistemology, in the classical sense, deals with where those concepts and ideas came from in the first place.\u00a0 Rawls makes clear that Durkheim\u2019s epistemological argument is that concepts and ideas come from ritual practices.\u00a0 Concepts and ideas, more specifically, are retrospective accounts of what happened during ritual practices in and through which collective effervescence and moral force were generated.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\">Another important point, based on the above, is that Durkheim believed that most epistemological problems or dilemmas resulted from individualism.\u00a0 Durkheim believed that Kant, Hume, and even James\u2019 radical empiricism started with the individual and therefore were problematic.\u00a0 Durkheim, instead, argues for a radical socio-empiricism that focuses on group members as participants in ritual social practices.\u00a0 As Rawls makes clear, \u201cBut, in rejecting the individual as a starting point, the way is opened for Durkheim to explain the origin of the necessary basic concepts in terms of social processes (which Rawls also calls ritual practices); 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