{"id":378,"date":"2021-08-28T17:53:52","date_gmt":"2021-08-28T21:53:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sites.nd.edu\/world-politics-2021\/?page_id=378"},"modified":"2021-08-28T18:08:20","modified_gmt":"2021-08-28T22:08:20","slug":"the-right-wingers-who-admire-the-taliban","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/sites.nd.edu\/world-politics-2021\/the-right-wingers-who-admire-the-taliban\/","title":{"rendered":"The Right-Wingers Who Admire the Taliban"},"content":{"rendered":"<header class=\"css-yglbg euiyums1\">\n<div class=\"css-1s9y8so\" data-testid=\"brand-bar\">\n<div class=\"css-42igfv\">\n<div class=\"css-11yxsgj e1vbbbt70\">OPINION<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-s8u3w2 euiyums0\">\n<p class=\"css-tsacue e6idgb70\">MICHELLE GOLDBERG<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1n0c3ln\"><em>New York Times,<\/em> Aug. 27, 2021<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-79elbk\" data-testid=\"photoviewer-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"css-zehqnd ehw59r12\" data-testid=\"photoviewer-children\">\n<div class=\"css-tux0zj ehw59r13\" data-testid=\"photoviewer-overlay\">\n<div class=\"css-wa3kvb ehw59r14\">\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1a48zt4 ehw59r15\" data-testid=\"photoviewer-children\">\n<figure class=\"sizeLarge layoutVertical css-1uo7c9r\" role=\"group\" aria-label=\"media\">\n<div class=\"css-bsn42l\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"css-rq4mmj\" src=\"https:\/\/static01.nyt.com\/images\/2021\/08\/28\/opinion\/27goldberg-lead\/27goldberg-lead-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&amp;auto=webp&amp;disable=upscale\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"900\" \/><\/div><figcaption class=\"css-13o4bnb e18f7pbr0\"><span class=\"css-cnj6d5 e1z0qqy90\"><span class=\"css-1ly73wi e1tej78p0\">Credit&#8230;<\/span>Mark Peterson\/Redux<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/header>\n<section class=\"meteredContent css-1r7ky0e\">\n<div class=\"css-1fanzo5 StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-axufdj evys1bk0\">As the Taliban swept through Afghanistan in August, a Gen Z alt-right group ran a Twitter account devoted to celebrating their progress. Tweets in Pashto juxtaposed two laughing Taliban fighters with pictures meant to represent American effeminacy. Another said, the words auto-translated into English, \u201cLiberalism did not fail in Afghanistan because it was Afghanistan, it failed because it was not true. It failed America, Europe and the world see it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-axufdj evys1bk0\">The account, now suspended, was just one example of the open admiration for the Taliban that\u2019s developed within parts of the American right. The influential young white supremacist Nick Fuentes \u2014\u00a0<a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2021\/07\/05\/us\/politics\/paul-gosar-republicans-congress-extremism.html\">an ally<\/a>\u00a0of the Arizona Republican congressman Paul Gosar and the anti-immigrant pundit\u00a0<a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.haaretz.com\/us-news\/.premium-trump-retweets-right-wing-activist-associated-with-white-nationalist-group-1.8852355\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Michelle Malkin<\/a>\u00a0\u2014\u00a0<a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/livecoverage\/live-afghanistan-taliban-news\/card\/hv1U2m0zceuobgYAiwiR\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">wrote<\/a>\u00a0on the encrypted app Telegram: \u201cThe Taliban is a conservative, religious force, the U.S. is godless and liberal. The defeat of the U.S. government in Afghanistan is unequivocally a positive development.\u201d An account linked to the Proud Boys\u00a0<a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.vice.com\/en\/article\/qj8apw\/the-far-right-is-celebrating-the-taliban-takeover-of-afghanistan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">expressed respect<\/a>\u00a0for the way the Taliban \u201ctook back their national religion as law, and executed dissenters.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-axufdj evys1bk0\">\u201cThe far right, the alt-right, are all sort of galvanized by the Taliban essentially running roughshod through Afghanistan, and us leaving underneath a Democratic president,\u201d said Moustafa Ayad, executive director for Africa, the Middle East and Asia at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, a think tank devoted to countering violent extremism. They\u2019re looking at Afghanistan, he said, \u201cfrom a standpoint of us getting \u2018owned,\u2019 in the parlance of the internet.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-axufdj evys1bk0\">This is not the first time that right-wing American extremists have been inspired by Muslim militants; several white supremacists\u00a0<a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.splcenter.org\/fighting-hate\/intelligence-report\/2002\/national-alliance-holocaust-deniers-react-911-attacks\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">lauded Al Qaeda\u2019s attacks<\/a>\u00a0on Sept. 11. The difference now is that the far right has\u00a0<a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.propublica.org\/article\/global-right-wing-extremism-networks-are-growing-the-u-s-is-just-now-catching-up\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">grown<\/a>, and the distance between the sort of right-wingers who cheer for the Taliban and conservative power centers has shrunk.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"story-ad-1-wrapper\" class=\"css-1r07izm\">\n<div id=\"after-story-ad-1\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1fanzo5 StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-axufdj evys1bk0\">The Florida Republican Matt Gaetz may be a clown, but he\u2019s also a congressman who was close to the previous president. On Twitter earlier this month, <strong>Gaetz\u00a0<a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/RepMattGaetz\/status\/1428056066269581313?s=20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">described<\/a>\u00a0the Taliban, like Trump, as \u201cmore legitimate than the last government in Afghanistan or the current government here.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"css-axufdj evys1bk0\">Twenty years ago, in the aftermath of Sept. 11, the United States embarked on a war that would, in time, sell itself as a battle for democracy. Back then, liberal democracy was almost universally venerated in America, which is one reason we had the hubris to think we could export it by force. Many, especially on the right, worried about the threat that jihadism posed to a modern, open society. The tragic journey of the last two decades began with the loudest voices on the right braying for war with Islamism and ended with a right-wing vanguard envying it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-axufdj evys1bk0\">At least before the devastating terrorist attacks on Thursday, there was a subtler form of satisfaction with the Taliban\u2019s takeover among more respectable nationalist conservatives. They don\u2019t sympathize with barbarism, but were pleased to see liberal internationalism lose. <strong>\u201cThe humiliation of Afghanistan will have been worth it if it pries the old paradigm loose and lets new thoughts in,\u201d Yoram Hazony, an\u00a0<a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/newrepublic.com\/article\/154531\/man-behind-national-conservatism\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">influential<\/a>\u00a0nationalist intellectual whose conferences feature figures like Josh Hawley and Peter Thiel,\u00a0<a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/yhazony\/status\/1427181345827168260?s=20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">tweeted<\/a>\u00a0earlier this month.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"css-axufdj evys1bk0\"><strong>What old paradigm? Well, a few days later\u00a0<a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/yhazony\/status\/1429311609319612421?s=20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">he tweeted<\/a>, \u201cWhat went wrong in Iraq and Afghanistan was, first and foremost, the ideas in the heads of the people running the show. Say its name: Liberalism.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"css-axufdj evys1bk0\"><strong>Fox\u2019s Tucker Carlson, the most important nationalist voice in America, seemed to sympathize with the gender politics of Taliban-supporting Afghans. \u201cThey don\u2019t hate their own masculinity,\u201d\u00a0<a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/theweek.com\/fox-news\/1003818\/fox-news-tucker-carlson-blames-taliban-gains-on-grotesque-gender-studies\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">he said<\/a> shortly after the fall of Kabul. \u201cThey don\u2019t think it\u2019s toxic. They like the patriarchy. Some of their women like it too. So now they\u2019re getting it all back. So maybe it\u2019s possible that we failed in Afghanistan because the entire neoliberal program is grotesque.\u201d<\/strong> (By \u201cneoliberalism\u201d he seems to mean social liberalism, not austerity economics.)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\">\n<div id=\"c-col-editors-picks\" class=\"css-j64t31\">\n<article class=\"css-5raq8g\">\n<h3 class=\"css-1p08cbr\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;font-weight: 400\">It turns out that when the government deceptively invokes liberal democracy to justify a war, liberal democracy can be discredited by a grueling defeat. In his new book \u201cReign of Terror,\u201d the national security journalist Spencer Ackerman draws a direct line between our stalemated post-9\/11 wars and the rise of Donald Trump. \u201cTrump was able to safely voice the reality of the war by articulating what about it most offended right-wing exceptionalists: humiliation,\u201d he wrote.<\/span><\/h3>\n<\/article>\n<\/div>\n<\/aside>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1fanzo5 StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-axufdj evys1bk0\">Humiliation is a volatile emotion. Many have\u00a0<a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/democracyjournal.org\/magazine\/3\/a-matter-of-pride\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">written about<\/a>\u00a0its role in motivating Al Qaeda. Perhaps it\u2019s not surprising that parts of the right would respond to humiliation by identifying with images of brutal masculinity.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-axufdj evys1bk0\">Some of this identification might just be for shock value; the alt-right is adept at using irony to occlude its intentions. But some of it is deadly earnest.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-axufdj evys1bk0\">\u201cWe\u2019ve come across a lot of content that\u2019s U.S.-based extreme far-right websites saying how good the Taliban victory is, and why it\u2019s good for their cause,\u201d said Adam Hadley, director of Tech Against Terrorism, a U.N.-supported project that monitors extremists online. One neo-Nazi website, which I won\u2019t link to, has a tract hailing the Taliban victory in part for showing that a small band of armed fundamentalists can defeat the American empire.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-axufdj evys1bk0\">As for the rest of the pro-Taliban right, the Proud Boys and incels and MAGA splinter factions, some of them are probably just trolling. But as groups like QAnon and the civil war-hungry Boogaloo Bois show, a movement can seem absurd and still be a source of real radicalization. \u201cThe classic response to any of this is, \u2018Ah, they\u2019re just a fringe group,\u2019 and then when that metastasizes, a lot of people eat their words,\u201d said Ayad.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-axufdj evys1bk0\">If there\u2019s one lesson of recent American history, it\u2019s that there\u2019s no such thing as something too ridiculous to be dangerous.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>OPINION MICHELLE GOLDBERG New York Times, Aug. 27, 2021 &nbsp; Credit&#8230;Mark Peterson\/Redux As the Taliban swept through Afghanistan in August, a Gen Z alt-right group ran a Twitter account devoted to celebrating their progress. Tweets in Pashto juxtaposed two laughing Taliban fighters with pictures meant to represent American effeminacy. 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