We are recreating the “free market” conditions for The Great Depression!

Could half of America’s banks suddenly go bankrupt and unemployment reach 25 percent of our labor force? If you are focused solely on the federal government’s deficit spending, you are missing a much bigger threat to our economy. It is our private banking system and how we are gradually and systematically removing the regulations that were put in place in the 1930s to ensure our financial safety, security and stability. The Trump advisors’ plan to abolish the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) and transfer its function to the Treasury Department is just the latest is a series of deregulation moves over many years that have been setting us up for another Great Depression. To understand all this, we must first understand how our banking system actually works.

People naturally think that if they deposit ten one-hundred dollar bills (a thousand dollars) into a bank savings account, then the bank can take that money and loan it out to some business or person seeking a loan. Occasionally, a loan might go bad, but if the bank charges a high enough interest rate on loans (relative to the interest rate on savings that it gives to you), it can usually still make a profit, even when a few loans go bad. That sounds like a reasonably stable system. But it is not at all the banking system we have.

What most people don’t understand is that for many years prior to March 2020, if you put a thousand dollars into a savings account at a bank, then that bank could legally loan out as much as ten times as much money as you had deposited. This was known as our fractional reserve banking system. You put a thousand dollars in the bank. The bank doesn’t touch those ten one-hundred dollar bills. They can just sit there. What really happens as a result of your putting a thousand dollars into a savings account is that the bank can now loan out ten times as much money as you have deposited (prior to March 2020).

Someone who is a good cook decides that they would like to open a restaurant. But they need a loan to get the equipment, pay the rent and hire some restaurant workers to get things started. They go to a bank and ask for a loan of ten thousand dollars. Prior to March 2020, based on your deposit of one thousand dollars, the bank can create a bank account worth ten thousand dollars out of “thin air.” The bank doesn’t even need to touch your ten one-hundred dollar bills. It just creates an account out of “thin air.” The good cook can just write checks on that account as if it were real money, because it is real money. Most of the money in our economy is created by our private banks. (Note: The Federal Reserve can adjust the amount of money in circulation on the margin and move short-term interest rates up or down.)

This fractional reserve system is a lot more risky than just loaning out the money you deposited. The bank can get way out over its skis in making loans if it is not careful. Before fractional reserve banking was created in 1933, banks had no limits on creating loans out of “thin air.” The Great Depression demonstrated the danger of counting on the banking system to restrain itself. Allowing free market “creative destruction” to destroy our economy from time to time does not seem reasonable. That is why reserve requirement regulations were imposed on the free market.

The Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 was enacted by Congress to prevent banks from engaging in speculative and highly risky investments by separating commercial depository banking from investment banking. The Glass-Steagall Act was repealed and replaced with the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act in 1999, which some people argue led to the 2007-2009 Great Recession. This freed up local banks to transfer local bank risk to Wall Street through such instruments as mortgage-backed securities. Local banks are more likely to understand local risks that don’t show up in the standard accounting measures. Local banks may know more about the backgrounds of individuals or businesses seeking loans. Transferring hidden risks to Wall Street protected the local banks but made the whole system less stable by making a lot more loans that were much more likely to fail.

Insurance is a way to cover threats to your health, your property or your business. However, even with insurance, you still have some incentive to protect yourself, your property and your business. But credit default swaps (CDSs) enable you to bet on someone else’s debt. You may have knowledge that the owner, the bank or the mortgage company don’t have, or you may even have an incentive to cash in on a debt default when you could have taken action to prevent the default on the debt. You might even think of CDSs as facilitating something like insider trading where you short a stock when you have insider knowledge about something bad that is about to happen.

For many years, under the Banking Act of 1935, which was passed in response to the bank failures in the Great Depression, the Federal Reserve typically required deposits of at least ten percent of the value of a bank’s total loans under our traditional fractional reserve banking system. But in March 2020,[1] after President Trump appointed new members to the Federal Reserve Board, the Federal Reserve went in the opposite direction and reduced the fraction of deposits that must be held on reserve to zero percent, effectively eliminating the reserve requirements for all depository institutions. This means that banks can now create as much money out of “thin air” as they want, whenever they want. Were you worried about the Federal government increasing the Federal debt? The private sector already creates more than ninety percent of the money in our economy and is now in a position to create even more money than that whenever it wants.

Under “The Chicago Plan”, which is based on the work of conservative economists Frank Knight and Henry Simons of the University of Chicago and Irving Fisher of Yale University in the 1930s, fractional reserve banking would be eliminated and replaced with one hundred percent reserve banking so that private banks could no longer create money out of “thin air” and could only loan out money that they actually had in deposits.[2] Somehow, since then, the meanings of the words “conservative” and “radical” seem to have been switched. Regulations that were deemed “prudent” before are now considered “government overreach.”

After all, it was the private financial system that collapsed and brought on the Great Depression and many recessions since then, yet the enormous money creation by banks with very little in the way of assets to back up their loans is generally ignored by economists and the general public which instead focus solely on federal government debt. In March 2023, Silicon Valley Bank, Signature Bank, Silvergate Bank and First Republic Bank all failed due to the drop in the value of the assets backing up their loans and investments.[3]

The real threat to our economic stability is less about the federal government’s debt and more about the debt of banks with inadequate assets to back up their creation of money out of “thin air.” Too often we face a private debt crisis and then just go back to focusing on and complaining about the federal public debt. The federal debt problem should not be ignored, but the instability brought on by the enormous growth in private debt of both banks and individuals should not be ignored either.

Prior to the 1929 stock market crash and the Great Depression the money flow had become more and more distorted with an ever greater portion of it flowing into the hands of the wealthiest people, who kept reinvesting it in the financial markets in an attempt to compete with others in building up their wealth as a measure and sign of their self-worth. The inflation that this distorted money flow created in the stock prices in the financial economy on Wall Street was ignored, because it didn’t show up in the usual inflation indices that measure inflation in the real economy on Main Street.

In the old days, many people believed that unrestricted free enterprise including unregulated financial markets were necessary for a healthy economy. Few people anticipated the financial collapse that followed the stock market crash in 1929 with half of the nation’s 25,000 banks destroyed and the unemployment rate reaching 25 percent. Before the Great Depression that lasted for ten years from 1929 to 1939, most economists believed in Schumpeter’s creative destruction where occasional economic downturns were seen as part of a necessary cleansing process to weed out less efficient enterprises. The money flow paradigm sees this as more of a competition destruction where many small mom and pop restaurants and other firms with insufficient capital resources to ride out the downturn either go bankrupt or are bought up by larger companies with greater liquidity. 

Before the Great Depression most people agreed that government needed to just stay out of the way and not interfere with free markets. After the Great Depression the practical problems and deficiencies of unrestricted free markets had to be addressed. The consensus that government oversight and regulation was a necessary part of protecting and preserving free enterprise more or less held until the election of Ronald Reagan as president of the United States in 1980.

Following President Reagan’s dictate that “government is best that governs least”, in 1982 the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) removed the prohibition on corporations buying back their own stock in the stock market. Prior to 1982 stock buybacks were considered insider trading and illegal. After 1982 stock buybacks were allowed along with all the manipulations and distortions that they introduced into the stock market.

The Efficient Market Hypothesis was considered sacrosanct so whatever prices the stock market produced were considered optimal in being efficiently based on all available information. Conservative Federal Reserve chair Alan Greenspan’s warning about irrational exuberance was ignored even after the 2000 to 2001 stock market crash and the 2007 to 2009 Great Recession.

Occasionally wiping out a lot of the retirement savings of some elderly people with the switch from companies providing defined benefits in the form of pensions to instead providing defined contributions in a 401K Individual Retirement Account (IRA) was just considered part of the risk that individuals had to bear under the deregulation agenda.

Even today politicians following President Reagan’s conservative doctrine justify the ever increasing concentration of American industries on the need to benefit from the economies of scale and network effects that such concentration bring even when those benefits go to fewer and fewer ever more wealthy people. Instead of lots of firms competing in an industry with occasionally one going bankrupt from a poor strategy or bad luck, the government watchdogs set aside such concerns and frequently bet an entire industry on one very large firm or a few large firms by ignoring the anti-trust laws and allowing the number of firms in many American industries to be consolidated.

The deregulation agenda was facilitated by the Supreme Court’s Citizens United ruling in 2010 which declared that corporations were people and entitled to the same freedom of speech rights as people. This ruling opened the way for corporations and wealthy individuals to directly or indirectly support politicians running for office who promoted the deregulation agenda.

It will be interesting to see how far out on the deregulation limb the United States can go in introducing more and more instability before the whole thing collapses in another Great Depression. It is ironic that the MAGA rebellion against the “know-it-all” intellectual elite (e.g., Dr. Anthony Fauci) is now being run by billionaires representing the financial elite (e.g., Elon Musk). The conflict over H1B visa technology immigrants is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the inherent conflict between Trump’s MAGA base and the billionaire agenda. Let’s hope that people wake up and realize where this is all heading before it is too late.


[1]  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_requirement

[2] Fisher, Irving. “100% Money.” working paper. https://cdn.mises.org/100%20Percent%20Money_Fisher.pdf

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_United_States_banking_crisis

Exactly what would happen if federal debt got very big?

The cash in your wallet used to be government debt. What the government owed you before 1971 was an ounce of gold for $35.  In 1971 President Richard Nixon took the United States off of the gold standard. Now the government owes you absolutely nothing for $35 or any amount of money. If you are nervous about using money that is backed by nothing, don’t use it.

Question: But what about US Treasury bills and bonds? Doesn’t the government owe you for the principal and the interest on those bills and bonds?  Answer: they owe you the interest payment, but if you want to redeem any of those bills and bonds, you go into the New York financial markets and sell them for whatever price they are currently selling for.

Question: Does that mean that the government never has to pay back the debt that it has issued?  The answer: as long as there is a market for government bills and bonds, the government doesn’t have to worry about it. As long as there is someone else willing to buy the debt, then it isn’t a problem.

Question: How do we know when a government debt problem might be developing? Answer: when people start losing faith in government debt, the interest rates on government debt will begin to rise.  Safe and secure debt offers a low interest rate. Risky debt requires that the issuer pay a high interest rate. If the interest rate on government debt starts rising above that offered on corporate bonds, then it would be time to start worrying, mainly because the government would need to sell more and more debt to get the money to pay the interest rate on the increasing debt load. It is very unlikely that the government would let this get to the point where they couldn’t keep up. In an emergency the Federal Reserve would monetize some of the debt (buy up enough of it to alleviate the crisis) to bail out the government just as it bailed out the banks on Wall Street in 2008-2009.

Question: What if there was a situation (such as the current situation) where wealthy people and wealthy corporations had a huge amount of money in the financial markets and there were no reasonable real investment opportunities (except maybe overseas) so the money just drove up stock and bond prices and drove down interest rates? Answer: Yes, this is the current situation. There is a huge amount of money in the financial markets that is sitting idle. Corporations are using the money they get to issue stock buybacks and increased dividends and driving up stock and bond prices. Right now the chances that the interest rates on government debt are going to spike are next to none. It is definitely not an immediate problem. The inflation that has resulted is primarily in stock and bonds, which are not well represented in the market basket of goods and services that the government uses to generate the consumer price index (CPI), because most consumers don’t own many stocks and bonds.

Question: But what if the government went wild by issuing a huge amount of government debt? Answer: that would be a problem, because eventually all market interest rates would start to rise and private investment would be choked off. This is what is sometimes referred to as “crowding out.” But a moderate amount of “crowding out” is not a bad thing if the money is being used for important public investments such as infrastructure repair and other important priorities that voters have determined are more important than what the private sector would spend the money on. The term “crowding out” is prejudicial in that it implies that private spending is good and government spending is bad, but that is not always the case. Some reasonable amount of government spending is needed.

Question: What if the government issued the debt but didn’t spend the money?  Answer: Although the chance that this would happen is absolutely zero, it is an interesting question. It would mean that the government was reducing the money supply. Controlling the money supply is supposed to be the responsibility of the Federal Reserve. But if the treasury department did it the effect would be the same as the Fed purchasing securities in the financial markets. It would reduce the money in the economy and slow the economy, and, if extreme enough, cause a recession.

The real question is how much money is flowing through our economy and where is that money going? Right now, there is too much money flowing into Wall Street and too little money flowing to the people on Main Street. The people on Main Street don’t have enough money to buy back and goods and services they are creating so the federal government has to use deficit spending to make up the difference to keep the economy from falling into a recession. The problem is that the wealthiest one percent don’t spend enough of their enormous fortunes, and they put so much money into the stock and bond markets in New York City that there aren’t enough investment projects to use all that money. In others words, the wealthy have a low marginal propensity to consume and make financial investments that trigger increased dividends and stock buybacks, but not enough real investment in the real (Main Street) economy. The Wall Street economy has become more and more separated from the Main Street economy. Deficit spending is here to stay until we correct the money flow problem where too much money is flowing to the wealthiest people and biggest corporations on Wall Street and too little money is going to everyone else back on Main Street. Of course, if too much money flowed to Main Street, it could trigger real inflation in the real economy and not just stock and bond inflation on Wall Street. I will leave the inflation discussion for another column.

Lawrence C. Marsh is professor emeritus in economics at the University of Notre Dame and author of the 2020 book “Optimal Money Flow: A New Vision on How a Dynamic-Growth Economy Can Work for Everyone.”

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The cash in your wallet used to be government debt. What the government owed you before 1971 was an ounce of gold for $35. In 1971 President Richard Nixon took the United States off of the gold standard. Now the government owes you absolutely nothing for $35 or any amount of money. If you are nervous about using money that is backed by nothing, don’t use it.


Question 1: But what about US Treasury bills and bonds? Doesn’t the government owe you for the principal and the interest on those bills and bonds? Answer: They owe you the interest payment (coupon value) and the principal at maturity, but if you want to cash out any of your government-issued bills and bonds, just go into the New York financial markets and sell them for whatever price they are currently selling for.


Question 2: Does that mean that the government never has to pay back the debt that it has issued? Answer: As long as there is a market for government bills and bonds, the government doesn’t have to worry about it. As long as there is someone else willing to buy the debt, then it isn’t a problem. The government just issues replacement bills and bonds when the old ones reach maturity.


Question 3: Can’t government debt go bad just like private debt sometimes does? Answer: The analogy between public debt and private debt doesn’t hold up very well. Private businesses can’t print their own money or raise taxes to pay off their debt. Government has powers that go way beyond whatever a business might have. However, a government could get so carried away in monetizing its debt that it causes hyperinflation.


Question 4: How do we know when a government debt problem might be developing? Answer: When people start losing faith in government debt, the interest rates on government debt will begin to rise. A safe and secure debt can offer a low interest rate. Risky debt requires that the issuer pay a high interest rate. If the interest rate on government debt starts rising above that offered on corporate bonds, then it would be time to start worrying, mainly because the government would need to sell more and more debt to get the money to pay the interest rate on the increasing debt load. It is very unlikely that the government would let this get to the point where they couldn’t keep up. In an emergency the Federal Reserve would monetize some of the debt (buy up enough of it to alleviate the crisis) to bail out the government just as it bailed out the banks on Wall Street in 2008-2009.


Question 5: What if there was a situation (such as the current situation) where wealthy people and wealthy corporations had a huge amount of money in the financial markets and there were no reasonable real investment opportunities (except maybe overseas) so the money just drove up stock and bond prices and drove down interest rates? Answer: Yes, this is the current situation. There is a huge amount of money in the financial markets that is sitting idle. Corporations are using the money they get to issue stock buybacks and increased dividends and driving up stock and bond prices. Right now the chances that the interest rates on government debt are going to spike are next to none. It is definitely not an immediate problem.


Question 6: But what if the government went wild by issuing a huge amount of government debt? Answer: That would be a problem, because eventually all market interest rates would start to rise and private investment would be choked off. This is what is sometimes referred to as “crowding out.” But a moderate amount of “crowding out” is not a bad thing if the money is being used for important public investments such as infrastructure repair and other important priorities that voters have determined are more important than what the private sector would spend the money on. The term “crowding out” is prejudicial in that it implies that private spending is good and government spending is bad, but that is not always the case. Some reasonable amount of government spending is needed, even if it replaces private spending.


Question 7: What if the government issued the debt but didn’t spend the money? Answer: Although the chance that this would happen is absolutely zero, it is an interesting question. It would mean that the government was reducing the money supply. Controlling the money supply is supposed to be the responsibility of the Federal Reserve. But if the treasury department did it, the effect would be the same as the Fed purchasing securities in the financial markets. It would reduce the money in the economy and slow the economy, and, if extreme enough, cause a recession.


Question 8: The real question is how much money is flowing through our economy and where is that money going? Right now, there is too much money flowing into Wall Street and too little money flowing to the people on Main Street. The people on Main Street don’t have enough money to buy back the value of the goods and services they are producing so the federal government has to use deficit spending to make up the difference to keep the economy from falling into a recession. Deficit spending is here to stay until we correct the money flow problem (remove tax loopholes and inappropriate subsidies, etc.) where too much money is flowing to the wealthiest people and biggest corporations and too little money is going to everyone else.


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